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The Son gets his glory from the Father


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TRINITARAN:
It seems Isaiah's vision establishes Jesus as eternal. - Isaiah sees the glory of "the Lord" on the throne, and then John says Isaiah saw Jesus' glory and spoke about him. (John 12:37-4 )

MONOTHEIST:
Yes, Yahshuah (aka "Jesus") is the Word and the Word is eternal.
YHVH is the source of Yahshuah's glory.

Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify me with yourself with the glory which I had with you before the world was.
Jhn 17:24 they will behold my glory which you have given me, for you loved me before the foundation of the world.
Jhn 17:22 the glory which you (YHWH) gave me (Yahshuah), I have given to them (Yahshuah's disciples) that they may be One, even as we (YHWH and Yahshuah) are One.

We disciples are to be one yet distinct
In the proper reading of John 12:41, Yahshuah and Yahweh are different:
"Yahshuah's glory" (Iseou's doxa) = YHVH.
Yahshuah's glory is YHVH.
That is, Yahshuah gets his glory from YHVH, thus Yahshuah is the reflection of YHVH's glory.

Scriptural examples of this relationship between YHWH ("God most high") and his son Yahshuah:

Yahshuah said: "Yours (YHVH) is the kingdom, power, and glory..."
Mat 16:27 "The Son of Man (Yahshuah) will come in the GLORY of His FATHER..."
Mar 8:38 He (Yahsuhah) comes in the glory of his Father (Yahweh).
Luk 9:26 (Yahshuah) shall come in his own glory, and that of his Father (Yahweh)
Jhn 7:18 He (Yahshuah) seeks the glory of He (Yahweh) who sent him
Jhn 8:50 I (Yahshuah) seek not my own glory
Jhn 8:54 If I (Yahshuah) honor myself, my glory is nothing
Jhn 11:4 This sickness is for the glory of YHWH, that the Son of YHWH might be glorified thereby
Act 7:55 Stephen...looked into heaven and saw the glory of [YHWH], and [Yahshuah] standing on the right hand of [YHWH]
Rom 6:4 [Yahshuah] Messiah was raised up form the dead by the glory of the Father
Rom 16:27 To the only wise God (YHWH), be glory through (Yahshuah) forever
2Cr 4:4 Yashuah is the 'image' of YHWH
2Cr 4:6 the glory of God [YHVH] [is seen] in the face of [Yahshuah]
Eph 1:17 The God [YHWH] of our Lord Yashuah Hamashiach is the Father of glory
Eph 3:21, Phl 1:11, 1Pe 5:10
Phl 2:11 Every tongue should confess that Yahshuah Hamashiach is Lord, to the glory of (YHWH) the Father.
Phl 4:19 My God (YHWH) shall supply all you need, according to his riches in [Yahshuah hamashiach].
1Ti 1:17 unto the King [YHWH] eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God [YHWH], [be] honour and glory for ever and ever.
Hbr 1:1 YHWH, who ... spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son (Yahshuah), whom YHWH hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also YHVH made the kosmos;
Who being the brightness of (YHWH's) glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of (YHWH's) Majesty on high;
Being made so much better than the angels, as Yahshuah hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For to which of the angels said YHWH at any time, You are my Son, this day have I begotten you?
And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when YHWH brings in the firstbegotten into the world, he says, "And let all the angels of God (YHWH) worship him..."
But to the Son (Yahshuah) [YHWH says], Your throne, O god (Elohim), [is] for ever and ever:
a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity;
therefore God (YHWH), [even] thy God, hath anointed thee (Yahshuah) with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Hbr 2:9 we see Jesus (Yahshua)... crowned with glory and honour; that Yahshua by the grace of God (YHWH) should taste death for every man.
1Pe 1:21 by (Yahshuah) you believe in YHWH who raised Yahshuah up from the dead, and gave Yahshua glory; that your faith and hope might be in YHWH.
1Pe 4:11 YHWH in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ (Yahshuah Hamashiach), to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever.
2Pe 1:17 For he (Yahshuah) received from God the Father (YHWH) honour and glory, when there came such a voice to Yahshua from the excellent glory, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
Rev 1:6 (Yahshuah) has made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;
Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of Elohim did lighten it, and the Lamb (Yahshuah) [is] the light thereof.


Yahshuah pre-existed creation as the Word (logos) of Yahweh.
On earth He was the living Word (Rhema) of Yahweh.

John 1:14 the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us

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RELATED DISCUSSION
John 12:37 Even after Yahshua had done all these miraculous signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him.

38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet:
"Adonai, who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?"
39For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere:
40"He has blinded their eyes
and deadened their hearts,
so they can neither see with their eyes,
nor understand with their hearts,
nor turn-and I would heal them."
41Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus' glory and spoke about him.


TRINITARIAN: Lord and LORD are equated. (v1 and v5)

MONOTHEIST:
Yes, YHWH (v3 & 5), is Adonai (v1)

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